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Message 1                                      DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 14:56
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: Message Base
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!
Well, major lightning storm yesterday and when I got home, found 
several errors indicating the system had gone down and come back up, 
now the message base slipped away.....again, I got a copy of it but 
cannot recover...
Tomorrow, WEDNESDAY, I will shut down the system and transfer all the 
KeelyNet files onto the new computer, so that should take some doing.
Sorry for the inconvenience but I have been putting it off.
I note some of the New Energy Conference folks have called and gotten 
the error, embarassing as it is, I cannot help it at this time, so stay 
with us, after all, we have been online for almost 4 years now with an 
absolute minimum of downtime....  In fact, in the past, when we have 
had downtime, it has usually been my fault for screwing with setup 
parameters....however, in this case, it is a decaying hard drive..
Well, it CAN be fixed and as Dennis Weaver said in his presentation to 
the New Sciences group....
   "There are those who simply "play around" and then there are those
    who show true commitment...."
   "To give you a better understanding of what I mean by TRUE
    COMMITMENT, I want you to imagine a plate of ham and eggs..."
   "Now the chicken is just playing around, but the pig, he is
    showing true commitment!"
That's us at this time, so it is running OK now, except for the 
probability that your major worldshaking messages of import might go 
off into a virtual state existence (can we say hyperspace?) so kind of 
hold off on the major data....and shout back Thursday or this weekend 
when the new system will be alive and well....thanks so much for your 
patience and understanding of these little "life challenges"..>>>  Jerry  
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Message 2                                      DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 15:22
From   : DAVID RAMOS
To     : ALL
Subject: Einstin's Unified Field Theory
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Greetings folks,  I have been reading about the Philadelphia Experiment 
and keep running into Einstin's Unified Field Theory that was 
presumably completed around 1920-1025 but then recinded by Einstein.  
The book I am reading said something about ole Al realizing the 
ramifications of his theory and then said it was all wrong.  Any 
explanations of the theory would be appreciated.  Any bibliography on 
the subject would be great too!...Happy searching....
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Message 5                                      DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 18:43
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : DAVID RAMOS
Subject: (R) Einstin's Unified Field Theory
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi David!  I believe there is a company that actually sells what is 
claimed to be a copy of this mysterious Unified Theory.  We were told 
that he actually DID finish one, then pulled back all known copies 
because he realized what it could lead to when integrated with Man's 
warlike attributes.....at the momemt I can't remember WHO sells this, 
possibly Rex Research....if I find out wil append or rewrite a message 
with the details.....>>>  Jerry
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Message 6                                      DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 18:46
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) Notes and Denver
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mark!  Met a fellow (a strange one at that) who drew a diagram of 
the Sweet machine and said THAT was the internal construction...I will 
do a .GIF and place here for everyone to study or implement.
Sweet is also said to "condition" the magnets...some say by using heat 
from a propane torch, aimed at the middle of each bar magnet.  I don't 
understand how this can condition anything because if the material of 
the magnet reaches or exceeds the Curie temperature, the magnet loses 
its field while in that state.....now on cooling, the field will return.
The indication is that such a cooling causes the magnetic domains to 
reach a point which makes them very sensitive to outside magnetic 
"tickler" fields as seen in the Sweet device...anyway, will have a 
paper hopefully this weekend....have fun...>>> Jerry
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Message 7                                      DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 18:59
From   : ROBERT BONNER                      -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Einstin's Unified Field Theory
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

I don't know why, but I've seemed to believe that Einstein DID finish 
his UFT. And that it WAS withdrawn because of what man would use it
for. This has been a probable possibility for me for years. 
Not hard to see it's possibility I suppose.
 
Jerry, did I miss this months meeting? Darnit, I hope not! I've finally
got  a job..(and I've actually been getting(purchasing) info!)
but besides that, I've been really busy. Works a hassle, but thats 
work, 
right?
 
So whats been up with you? Do you remember me? The motorcycle dude
in a blue/white leather outfit? I cannot let you forget!
Robert Boner
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Message 8                                      DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 20:57
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : ROBERT BONNER
Subject: (R) Einstin's Unified Field Theory
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Robert!  Yes, I remember you, the space alien....I have seen the 
Einstein manuscript listed somewhere for about $25...or at least it is 
PURPORTED to be his completed manuscript that was withdrawn almost 
immediately after publication.  I guess I better get a copy of it 
someday while it is still available.
The next meeting will be on the 2nd Thursday of May...don't know the 
actual date right at this moment, but it is easy to remember with the 
2nd....will post on the system and mail out flyers...I had to go in for 
an operation, so missed sending out the mailers for the April 
meeting...and only managed to get in touch with a few folks, despite no 
mailers, we had about 35 people and a neat lady from Canada with a very 
interesting machine which we checked out after the meeting...
Well, time to go to work, so will catch you later...>>>  Jerry
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Message 9                                      DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 21:01
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: New Joe Newman Video
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!
In the newest Extraordinary Science magazine, there is a small notice 
on the last page saying that Joe Newman (Gyroscopic Theory of energy 
generation) is back...
It says he gave a public demonstration in Washington, DC on March 28 of 
this year.
I called him Monday afternoon and he said the demonstration went well 
and that they made a video of it if anyone wants a copy...
Download the CONTACT1.ZIP file which gives his mailing address and send 
$20.00 with a note saying you want the video of the March 28th demo and 
he will mail it to you.
He has improved his machine but still has not managed to get a patent.
As to his master book which gives entire details of his theory of 
operation, it used to sell for $50.00 but they have long since sold out.
Joe says they are currently being reprinted and will sell for $59.95 
because the book is NOW OVER 500 pages in length...so will let you know 
when it becomes available.
If you don't know about Joe Newman, there are at least 2 files here in 
the Energy section called Newman1, Newman2, (I think), do a browse and 
get the names correct, and that will give you and idea of what he is 
about and a very brief history....have fun...>>>  Jerry
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Message 10                                     DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 21:39
From   : BOB ALDRICH
To     : ALL
Subject: Bearden's Latest
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi All,
 A friend just recently spoke to Tom Bearden and he said that all 
former files are obsolete! Well, not obsolete, but he's coming out with 
a new way to release the energy using GAS, not doped wire. Something 
which people will be able to come up with more readily..
     Just thought I'd leak this bit of info.. Don't count on rumours 
though!
     Bob Aldrich
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Message 11                                     DATE/TIME: 04/20/93 23:39
From   : PHIL LIVA
To     : ALL
Subject: Tesla BBS
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Does anyone know whats happening at Tesla BBS.  I trie calling tonight 
quite a few times, and get NO CARRIER.  Just curious.
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Message 17                                     DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 02:22
From   : DON KIRCHER                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BRYANT STAVELY
Subject: (R) Another Corner to talk in
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

 Why Clarks board, of course! It is the only one of quality I
 have found with conspiracy echos.
 Compuserve Politics forum provides many good contacts.
 Don Allen, among others is reachable at Databank or any board
 that has the FIDONET UFO echo...even if it is off topic.
 Don is the moderator and has been known to (ahem) be led astray
 on occasion..
 I've tried to find out where he hangs out otherwise, to no
 avail.
 The BEST bet looks to be the internet link at Delphi. That could
 be cheap and very productive.
 Did you get the Delphi file I uploaded to Jerry for you??
 If he still has it I expect that it will be hand carried to
 the next Jo Jo's meeting or something. It sure won't be placed
 on KEELYNET.
  later
 dlk
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Message 21                                     DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 10:31
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BOB ALDRICH
Subject: (R) Bearden's Latest
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bob!  Interesting comment and one that a friend of ours also 
proposed by the use of hydrogen gas under variable pressures...seems 
this is thought to be a more or less perfect "DSC" since you can vary 
the pressure and therefore the conductivity...will probably call Tom 
sometime in the near future....thanks for the note...>>>  Jerry
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Message 22                                     DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 10:32
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : PHIL LIVA
Subject: (R) Tesla BBS
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Phil!  Yes, I was with Toby this past weekend and he says they have 
been having some equipment problems...NOT TO WORRY!  Tobe says the 
problem is being resolved and they will be back online shortly..you 
know the area they are in is HIGHLY CONDUCIVE to line noise but this is 
a hardware problem....give them a few more days...if I speak with Toby 
in the near future, will find out the status (either by direct voice or 
calling the BBS) and leave it posted here in a note...>>>  Jerry
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Message 23                                     DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 10:34
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : DAN DAVIDSON
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Dan!  GEEZ, had a great time at the conference, you would have loved 
it, and I now think I have the final correlations to resolve the three 
points which I consider to be my destiny...i.e. 1) Anti-Gravity, 2) 
Free Energy, and 3) Disease Control and Age Reversal...had lots of 
really great fellows stating that my ideas (mix of Keely, Schauberger, 
Russell, Moray, Rawls/Davis and others are correct) which I found quite 
refreshing....will clue you in at a later time, I am going to get off 
my butt and start building...will call you this weekend for a 
chat....>>>  Jerry
...BUT FIRST I HAVE TO HEAL THE BABY - KEELYNET HAS A SLIGHT CASE OF
...ALZHEIMER'S WHICH I HAVE TEMPORARILY PATCHED, BUT BASED ON THE LAW
...OF SYNCHRONICITY, IT IS DESTINED TO REPEAT, SO TONITE IS THE MAJOR
...TRANSFER TO THE 130MB SYSTEM...a pain, but way overdue since I have
...basically had it ready for a few months, just did not like the idea
...of getting away from this particular version of Wildcat since it is
...simple, clean and quick...I don't give a hoot for the bells and 
...whistles or need to know all the details of who our users are, that's
...their business and if they want me to know, they will say so..
...will call this weekend...bye...>>>  JWD
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Message 24                                     DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 10:39
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : ROD FREDLUND
Subject: (R) Howdy!
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Rod!  Thanks for the comments and encouragement, you know, I don't 
remember just what that reference was in regard (the solid state F/E 
device) but there is one that comes to mind SWEET as listed in 
multiple files here....the conference was very well done and I had a 
great time and it will take months to digest the info...and yes, there 
will be MULTIPLE files on KeelyNet and transferred to our Associate 
boards....Some wild stuff, some proveable, some speculative and some 
totally far out....need to get busy for the transfer tonite, so I will 
leave it at that...have FUN...>>>  Jerry
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Message 25                                     DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 12:41
From   : MIKE VANHOOSER                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : DON KIRCHER
Subject: (R) Another Corner to talk in
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

What boards are you talking about?  I haven't been able to keep up with 
the recent crashes, so have lost the train of thought.  I am very 
interested in other boards where politics/conspiracy/etc. is the topic 
du jour.  I am still interested in putting up a board in the next month 
after I finish moving, and I appreciate the offers of assistance and 
will probably be taking them up.  If a good board exists with these 
discussions I will be supportive of it, but if not I am ready to put 
one up.  Let me know if anyone knows about other boards, I am very 
interested.  Compuserve is a little out of my range, but I may be able 
to participate in others which are not to costly.  Let me know what's 
out there.  Thanks.
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Message 28                                     DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 22:10
From   : LEE JONES
To     : ALL
Subject: Re: Upload of HAP30.ZIP
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Check this one out guys, HAP30.ZIP...it is super for 486 CPU's!!!
It is written small enough to run from the cache...ultra fast and 
produces the tightest archives yet..comaprison is included.
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Message 30                                     DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 23:07
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : GUY RESH
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Guy!  That McKie fellow was scheduled as the last speaker for Sunday 
at the conference but he did not show up....so someone else spoke in 
his place....there was no literature on the thing...I think the conf. 
proceedings might have his presentation, if so, I will copy and send to 
you, it should have addresses and phone numbers and more detail...
I will look it up...>>>  Jerry
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Message 31                                     DATE/TIME: 04/21/93 23:09
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : ROBERT BONNER
Subject: (R) Einstin's Unified Field Theory
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Robert!  It was an Amiga computer that had a very nice speaker 
system and a custom program for sampling voice....the program included 
specturm analysis and dual tone generation.
The idea was that as each person spoke, their voice carried a range of 
frequencies that were comprised of the harmonics of various elements.  
By analysing the voice signature, they could determine what elements 
were missing and the machine could then generate the correct harmonic 
for that specific element, broadcast it through the speaker and "evoke" 
the manifestation of that element into the body.  The interesting thing 
was that after the process was carried out, the voice signature changed 
to reflect the "presence" of what was claimed to now be the element 
that was previously missing....the part that threw us was they used 
Walter Russells mated pairs to ascertain the frequencies to be 
generated...this resulted in the dual tones which were projected 
through the speaker simultaneously by taking advantage of the multiple 
"voices" possible in better quality musical circuits.  Anyway, the lady 
will be returning in the next few months and we hope to gather some 
more info...it seems that you can generate PATTERNS that consist of 
RATIOS of one frequency to another....and this therefore makes the use 
of FREQUENCIES per se unimportant....it is the PATTERN, not the 
FREQUENCY that contains the geometry to "work the magic"...THIS IS WHAT 
WE SEEM TO HAVE STUMBLED ON IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS and therefore, 
it was further correlation for us.....note that once the correct 
pattern has been established, you get an ENHANCED EFFECT at the proper 
frequency, but it seems to work at ANY frequency...this ties in to  
magic squares and the geometry of energy projection....anyway, it was 
quite fascinating and we are looking into it further...>>>  Jerry
...one further correlation, at a conference several years ago, a fellow 
showed up from Alaska.  He had a box that contained a very bright light 
and a disk with several types of jewels.  He claimed that everyone had 
a "bank account" of COLORS within their system...each person had RED, 
GREEN, BLUE, etc...now you could envision this as cups of paint...when 
you were sick or stressed out or otherwise messed up, one or more of 
these cups of paint would drain away....it could be detected by the 
person looking into this box at the light that came from each of these 
gemstones as it was rotated around the disk.  As you looked into it, he 
would give you about a minute for each color and ask you what color 
you saw, several folks COULD NOT SEE CERTAIN COLORS....this indicated 
that their cup of paint of that particular color was empty.  The 
interesting thing was those folks who COULD NOT SEE A CERTAIN COLOR(S), 
had some kind of illness or other problem!  
How to CORRECT?  Once the "diagnosis" showed which color(s) were 
missing, the fellow knew which ones to "evoke", so he had the person 
stare into the machine while he set it for the jewel that emitted the 
color that the person missed.  As the person looked into the machine 
for several minutes, gradually they WOULD BEGIN TO SEE THE COLOR that 
was previously invisible!!!  And their physical illness or problem 
would abate, diminish or simply GO AWAY!!  
I met a man eariler in the conference who was limping, walking slow and 
was a physical wreck...we had talked for a few minutes and I really 
felt sorry for the old guy, he was just some oldtimer who had heard of 
the conference and came off the farm to see if anyone could help him.
Well, he went to this fellows room and took the test to see what colors 
he was missing (I believe it was three in his case)...I saw the fellow 
before the conference ended and he was bouncing around, walking with 
NO PROBLEMS, no sluggishness and his eyes were simply glowing...since I 
had talked with him earlier, I asked him what the hell happened that he 
was so much improved...and he said he had done the jewel color machine 
and gave me a play by play description of the diagnosis and treatment 
and the resulting improvement.  
Now this fellow could have been a shill, but I think not because he 
just seemed like any old farm boy and I was quite intrigued because of 
his obvious improvement, yes, I know psychomatic influence might be a 
cause, but you should have seen him bouncing around, it was very 
impressive, and for me the bottom line is, DOES IT WORK?  Well, the old 
man seemed so much improved that FOR THAT DAY, it surely worked.
The point of this long winded "correlation" is that the man with the 
machine said that JEWELS (natural, not man-made) when excited by a 
sufficiently bright light, emitted healing frequencies that the body 
naturally resonated to and freely absorbed....this in turned tied in to 
the work of Dinshah Ghadiali, now being accepted (through high 
intensity lasers) as PHOTOTHERAPY.  I have studied the work of Ghadiali 
for years but had never seen the use of natural crystals for the 
generation of the correct frequencies, so for me, that was another 
excellent correlation.  
Anyway, since all frequencies can be "accessed" through octave 
division, multiplication or harmonics, one can easily see how by 
dividing light frequencies by successive divisions of 2, you can 
eventually reach sonic frequencies.  When such frequencies are 
sufficiently pure (with sufficient decimal point precision, hers were 4 
decimal points...i.e, 18.2783) and projected with a SUSTAINED signal, 
then the PHONON interference could indeed create or evoke from WITHIN 
THE BODY, the missing components..
Another interesting line of thought on this subject is that of Crile, 
Kervran and Burr with the mitochondria being the energy generating 
systems of the cells....this is ABSOLUTELY A MYSTERY to modern science, 
and these fellows, Kervran in particular believe it to be miniature 
atomic furnaces that produce NATURAL LOW LEVEL ATOMIC FISSIONS for the 
express purpose of TRANSMUTATION and I believe MANIFESTATION when 
needed.  So, possibly these light and or sound frequencies access these 
furnaces and bias them in such a way (note with sustained frequencies 
only) to produce the missing element...
Whew, yep, it is long but an interesting train of incoming correlations.
Hope this explains or gives an answer to your one line query regarding 
the "machine"...bye...>>>  Jerry
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Message 32                                     DATE/TIME: 04/22/93 01:04
From   : MICHAEL THEROUX
To     : ALL
Subject: New BBS!
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

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Message 33                                     DATE/TIME: 04/22/93 08:05
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: Levitation Machine?
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!
On the last day of the New Energy Conference, I was talking with 
several people in the hall awaiting the next presentation.  This was 
about 10:45 AM Sunday morning....a fellow named John Miranda tapped me 
on the shoulder and asked if we could talk in private.  We did and he 
asked if I would be interested in seeing a tape that showed a practical 
levitation system....well of course, I could not pass that up.  With 
John was a Professor Tica from New York.....Tica had been brought to 
America by Werner Von Braun and currently ran an inventors assistance 
company.  They showed me about 3 minutes of tape which was quite 
fascinating.  Prof. Tica said the inventor lived in Fort Worth, TEXAS 
and wanted anonymity until all the patents were secured. 
I asked John what I could do to help them and he said they needed some 
of the conference organizers as well as some of the speakers to view 
the tape to see what they thought of it.  After writing up a 
description of the process, I gave it to Toby Grotz, who had it 
announced at the Banquet with Dennis Weaver.  The video was shown and 
most of the speakers and some of the organizers showed up (about 50 
folks) to view the video, the small room was packed.
The essence of the machine is quite simple :
    Two small motors (identical size and speed) that looked like those 
    used on a sewing machine were used to drive two aluminum hubs.
    The motors had a pulley connected to a belt that was in turn 
    connected to a pulley to spin each of the aluminum hubs independent
    of each other.
    The motors ran at 1800 RPM and the aluminum hubs were separated by
    a gap of about 1/4".
    The aluminum hubs spun opposite each other (the left hub spun CCW,
    the right hub spun CW).
    When a small magnet (which we at first were told was NON-magnetic) 
    was placed between the hubs, it levitated about 1" from the top
    of the diamagnetic (non-magnetic) spinning aluminum hubs.
    This first magnet was about the size of your little finger.
    The second demonstration was of a magnet that was about 1" in 
    diameter and about 4" in length.  It floated about 4" above the
    spinning hubs.
    The third demonstration showed a cylinder sitting on a table with
    the flat end down.  On top of this cylinder was an aluminum plate
    that was about 1/4 to 1/2" thick.  I could not ascertain the 
    diameter.  There were also 3 or 4 upright fingers shaped like 
    upside down L's.  Prof. Tica said these fingers kept the aluminum
    from floating off the cylinder and crashing into the floor.
    When the machine was turned on the aluminum plate levitated up to
    the fingers and stayed suspended.
    To disprove the effect being air currents or electrostatics, a piece
    of paper was moved between the levitating body and the paper was NOT
    blown away NOR did it move in any way.
Dr. Panos Pappas explained it away as eddy currents and later asked me 
if he got an "A" for his rapidity of explaining the effect, I gave an 
"A+".....
There was quite a bit of discussion regarding the phenonmenon and a 
flyer which Prof. Tica had made up indicates the inventor thinks this 
is eddy currents that are created by the magnetic levitated body INTO 
the aluminum hubs which in turn create a magnetic thrust that supports 
the body.
In detailed discussion with Paramahansa Tewari on his machine, John 
Keely, other subjects and this particular levitation experiment, he 
thought it might be entrained air that created a "shell" that supported 
the weight....this was in private discussion before he saw the video 
tape.  
Prof. Tica indicated that there were unsubstantiated reports that this 
machine could also levitate plastic, wood and other non-ferrous 
objects.  If this were true, then we might just possibly have an Aether 
Vortex mechanism that takes advantage of the neutral center of 
sufficiently dense masses to entrain the Aether and project a "reverse 
gravity" current that would in turn impact the neutral center of other 
masses.  If this was so, then by turning the device upside down, it 
might demonstrate reduced weight or outright levitation.
Tewari thinks this might also be possible PROVIDED the levitated 
objects are non-magnetic.  Tewari did entertain the possibility and 
supported Prof. Tica during the presentation.  Tewari also provided the 
interesting piece of information that BAUXITE (from which aluminum is 
extracted) is found with highest abundance at the equator of the 
planet.  
If aluminum, being a diamagnetic substance, were repelled from magnetic 
substances during the formation of the planet, this might cause the 
majority of aluminum deposits to take up a position that was FURTHEST 
from the highest magnetic field concentration...thereby leading one to 
believe that a combination of magnetic fields and aluminum might indeed 
be a key to levitation.  A FASCINATING CORRELATION!  If this is so, 
then other planets or moons might also have the highest concentration 
at their equatorial regions ALSO, thus leading one to believe that 
construction of an aluminum disc, spinning in a magnetic field, might 
provide some type of field propulsion....
Well, that is the essence of the experiment and I will keep in touch 
with Prof. Tica and John Miranda with the hope that we can meet the 
inventor of this (he is only about 45 miles from me).  There is a high 
probability that there are some anomalies with this experiment.
Toby Grotz asked if anyone viewing the tape might be willing to 
duplicate the experiment and write up their conclusions for the next 
INS journal...about 5 folks volunteered to investigate the phenomenon.
Norman Wootan, one of our Roundtable folks with whom I journeyed to 
Denver is also building the device.  I will report on his results 
within the next week or sooner.
One other point of interest, Don Kelly of the Space Energy group has 
been doing experiments with dropping various coils of wire, either 
straight, powered or in BIFILAR arrangements and notes A DEFINITE 
DECREASE OF GRAVITIC ATTRACTION BY 60% with the BIFILAR winding.
It all comes together, eh???.........comments??....>>>  Jerry
....one other point of interest, it is a known fact that high energy 
pulses discharged into a coil will provide high energy magnetic spikes 
that create JUST SUCH EDDY CURRENTS in aluminum for a repulsion effect. 
At our local science museum they have an metal pole about 10 feet high. 
At the base of this pole is an aluminum ring that loosely fits the pole 
diameter.  At the top of the pole is a bell.  At the bottom of the pole 
is a flat plate with a button.  The circuit is basically a large 
capacitor which charges up from a DC supply....when the button is 
presse, the rapid discharge of the capacitor into the coil produces 
this high energy magnetic spike which repels the aluminum ring with 
sufficient force to strike the bell.  
....one further correlation, the aluminum pie plate repulsion from the 
UFO case (can't remember the fellows name) which involved a phone call 
that mysteriously "programmed" the contactee to take a nail, hammer it 
into a wood plate, wrap it with wire, place an aluminum pie tin on the 
top of the nail, attach a battery and the pie plate shot up to the 
ceiling....this the contactee claims to be how UFO's fly...he could 
never successfully duplicate this particular experiment although he 
claims to have used a similar process to make a levitating machine...
Just So...>>>  JWD
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Message 43                                     DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 09:59
From   : SHAWN BUTTS
To     : ALL
Subject: Hi There
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi there, I shawn and new to this system.  I would like to hear from 
all of you about your views on time travel.
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Message 46                                     DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 15:32
From   : BOB PADDOCK                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: DIA-Magnetic
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

 | JD> "the diamagnetic (non-magnetic) spinning aluminum hubs."
 |
 |      One of us doesn't understand some thing here, not sure if
 | it is you or me.
 |
 |      This is my understanding of Dia-Magnetic:
 |
 |      A simple example of Dia-Magnetism can be demonstrated with the
 | element Bischmit, two magnetites, and a iron bar as show below:
 |
 |
 |      S ========= N  ----------------  S =========== N
 |           ^                    ^                ^
 | Bar Magnet___|   Iron Bar free to pivot  Bar Magnet__|
 |
 |
 |      A conventional ferris material like iron will line up in line
 | with the magnetic poles as shown above.
 |
 |                |
 |      S ========= N   |   S =========== N
 |           ^               |            ^
 | Bar Magnet___|        |   Bar Magnet_|
 |                ^
 |           Bischmit free to pivot
 |
 |      A Dia-Magnetic mineral will line up perpendicular to the axis
 | of the magnetic poles.
 |
 |
 |
 |      S ========= N  ----------------  S =========== N
 |           ^                    ^                ^
 | Bar Magnet___|   Aluminum Bar free to pivot  Bar Magnet__|
 |
 |      Nothing should happen to the Aluminum bar, no mater what
 | you do to the magnets.
 |
 |      Aluminum is NON-magnetic, not DIA-magnetic.
 |
 |      Maybe this is why I've never got an answer when I've
 | asked what elements are DIA-magnetic, they thought I meant
 | NON-magnetic?
 |
 |      I got from Rex Research a Electro Magnet plan that would work
 | with plastic and aluminum.  I'll post the details when I come
 | across them (I don't expect it to be soon; just started to pack
 | for moving into new house).
 
This got a bit mangled in uploading, hope you still get the idea.
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Message 49                                     DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 16:51
From   : MIKE VANHOOSER                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : DON KIRCHER
Subject: (R) Another Corner to talk in
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Thanks, will check it out soon.  Delphi sounds interesting and I would 
like to know more about getting in and using it.  Still haven't decided 
about putting up a board, but is still a possibility.  I'll let you 
know what I decide.   Later,  Mike
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Message 51                                     DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 17:06
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BOB PADDOCK
Subject: (R) DIA-Magnetic
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bob!  Got your excellent info on the ECKLIN device...thanks, it is 
really quite fascinating and will no doubt make some good files...
As to Dia-magnetic, can't find my flipping dictionary, but when 
aluminum is subected to magnetic fields UNDER MOTION, I understand the 
induced eddy type currents create a repulsion effect, the very process 
which makes the aluminum ring repel from the high flux discharge as in 
the science center memo....lessee, there is magnetic, paramagnetic, 
diamagnetic and non-magnetic....I was thinking that dia meant it 
repulsed, perhaps it is Para instead...when I find the dictionary will 
append this note, but I KNOW you will look it up...woops, found my 
dictionary and neither term is listed...aaahhh, but in my Van Nostrand 
'Cyclopedia, an indispensable little tome...
....DIAMAGNETISM - the phenomenon in which the magnetism in a substance
....OPPOSES the magnetizing force which INDUCES IT.  Diamagnetism is
....considered to exist in ALL SUBSTANCES, it is MASKED by the much 
....greater opposite effect due to the orientation of the magnetic atoms
....or molecules.
....PARAMAGNETISM - A physical characteristic of some matter, advantage 
....of which is taken in certain instrumental systems and scientific 
....apparatus.  The paramagnetic qualities of oxygen, due to two 
....unpaired electrons per molecule, is used as a basis for some oxygen
....analyzers.  Three basic magnetic forces exist: 1) paramagnetic,
....2) ferromagnetic, and 3) diamagnetic.  Ferromagnetic materials are 
....much more permeable than a vacuum and thus positive, aligning with 
....an applied magnetic field.  Diamagnetic materials are SLIGHTLY LESS
....permeable, thus negative, aligning across the field.  Para and ferro
....magnetism DIMINISH with temperature rise, whereas diamagnetism is
....essentially UNAFFECTED.
....Precession of electron orbits in atoms and molecules induced by an
....APPLIED FIELD CAUSES DIAMAGNETISM IN ALL MATTER even when 
....paramagnetism DOMINATES.  Unpaired electrons in atoms or molecules
....cause para and ferro magnetism.  Normally, electrons of opposite
....spin pair off, NETTING ZERO MAGNETISM PER PAIR.  Unbalanced spin
....moment of unpaired electrons yields both para and ferromagnetism.
So, it would appear that DIAMAGNETISM is indeed a form of REPULSION 
when the test object is subjected to an APPLIED FIELD, whether from a 
permanent magnet or an energized coil.
Something strange here, but I can't remember the exact paper that spoke 
of some really odd thing...hmmm, must be gettin' old...later...>>>  
Jerry
...Oh, by the way, the correct spelling is BISMUTH...it does seem to 
...have some bizarre properties and some kind of repelling effect to 
...gravitic flow as found by several researchers, including T.T. Brown
...can't help it, I like correct spelling....hehehehe..later...>>>  JWD
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Message 52                                     DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 17:24
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) Notes
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Hi Mark!  EXCELLENT, YOU FINGERED IT OUT on your own....very good...You 
must therefore be aware of ELECTRETS and how they can also be "tuned" 
with signatured electrostatic patterns???  Remarkable possibilities in 
this....  Well, I stumbled onto something but I won't report it until I 
have seen some kind of correlation as in a physical device that either 
proves or disproves it...
I understand that the CURIE temperature, will cause a magnet to lose 
all its field, but when recooled, it regains the field...and you 
correctly stated the process....I AM IMPRESSED...WHERE the hell have 
you been????   Guess you made it home OK??  Well, will report after I 
do the experiment, have to try to locate the materials locally to keep 
from waiting for mail order....later...>>> Jerry
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Message 53                                     DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 17:28
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MICHAEL ROHA
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Lost and Confuse (Mike)!  Welcome to KeelyNet and we will do 
everthing we can to warp all reality as you currently conceive of it, 
(right guys???)....I suggest you take down the ALLFILES.ZIP, then for 
starters try NEUTRAL1 and WRIGHT1 and the TACHYON series and the ZPE 
series and the AGE series and the DPALMA series and the SWEET series 
and the HYDE series...that should get you started...as to the work of 
Doyle Noyes...I don't currently have a file on him, but you are correct 
in mentioning a message to that effect....it was on a past crashed 
message base (but I saved off the threads for a file)..that I will 
eventually get on the board...it has something to do with what a good 
scientist friend calls "MOTOR SENSITIVES"..people like John Keely, 
Lester Hendershott and others who could make machines work quite easily 
while others could not although they copied their actions exactly...a 
very strange process and I won't go into it just now...take the files, 
read them, discuss with you interested friends, and post your 
questions, we have lots of very bright folks here who will assist you 
(if I can't make up stuff fast enough...hehehe)...later...>>>  Jerry
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Message 54                                     DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 17:35
From   : MARK MANSFIELD                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BOB PADDOCK
Subject: Diamagnetism
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bob,  ran across something you and Jerry might be interested in.
 
In reference to message 52 on 4/23/93.
 
From "Encyclopedia of Physis" by Rita G. Lerner/George L. Trigg, 2ed. 
edition.
 
 
The phenomenon of diamagnetism is a consequence of induction, whereby
a substance experiences polarization when placed in a magnetic field.
In this respect it is similar to the analogous phenomenon of para-
magnetism.  Furthermore, diamagnetic substances contain no permanent
magnetic dipoles, whereas normal paramagnetic materials do.  Also,
there is neither a normal temperature dependence nor a magnetic field
dependence associalted with diamagnetism.
  In discussing inductive magnetic effects it is customary to involke
the definition K=I/H, where K is the magnetic susceptibility per unit
volume of substance, I is the intensity of magnetization of the sub-
stance, and H is the strength of the magnetic field.  For diamagnetism
I is negative and smaller than H, and thus the susceptibility is neg-
ative and small (i.e., approx.10-6 enu).  The measurement of diamag-
netic susceptibilities is attained through the observation of an ap-
parent mass change which the substances exhibit when placed in a suf-
ficiently strong magnetic field.  In a diamagnetic material this is 
observed as a net mass loss resulting from the magnetic force tending
to repel the substance from the field.
  According to the atomic theory of matter, diamagnetism is a conseq-
uence of the orbital motion of electrons, and hence is a universal 
property of all matter.  In fact the majority of substances are 
observed to be diamagnetic, while, relatively speaking, the net 
nondiamagnetic behavior of matter is rather rare in nature. Common
substances such as wood, plastics, water, sand (SiO2), nitrogen, CO2,
NaCl, CaCO3, Al2O3, etc., and the millions of organic compounds and
most biological substances are all diamagnetic.  In graphite and 
certain metals an anomalous large diamagnetism is observed, which is
also found to be somewhat temperature and magnetic field dependent.
This is called "Landau diamagnetism," after the famous physicist, and
results from the large delocalization of the orbital motion of 
electrons in such systems.
 
There is more but it deals with superconductors.  Let me know if you
are interested in that part.  I'll try to type it in for you.
 
Hope this answers some of your questions. It sure did mine.
I wasn't clear until I read the above....later....Mark....
 

cc: Jerry Decker
    
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Message 56                                     DATE/TIME: 04/23/93 21:02
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) Diamagnetism
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mark!  Yes, I too have several physics books that go into a long 
explanation, that is why I opted for the Van Nostrand...
So, the bottom line is that diamagnetism is essentially repulsion and 
all masses have it as a rule....except that it is NOT evoked until 
placed in an applied field....does that about cover it?...thanks for 
the lookup...I like the details on the water, sand, and biological 
organisms....>>>  Jerry
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Message 63                                     DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 05:29
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BRYANT STAVELY
Subject: (R) Delphi file
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bryant!  Yes, I will condense all the uploaded buttwipe stuff (a 
joke son), place it on disk and HAND DELIVER it to you......well, now 
looks like VanHooser might be reconsidering...ah well, there are lots 
of other BBSs so much more conducive, maybe I should find some, eh??
later, Stavely dude...>>>  Jerry
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Message 64                                     DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 05:31
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MICHAEL ROHA
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mike!  Well, those files aren't exactly the most informative or the 
best and I have TONS of stuff on Radionics and Psionics...correlates 
quite nicely with Archetypes and the Hyperspace Gateway to 3space 
manifestation process...will see what I can do for more "technics, i.e. 
how to build" stuff on this in the future...glad you found something as 
a pseudo warp until you get into the major stuff...>>>  Jerry
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Message 65                                     DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 09:31
From   : MARK MANSFIELD                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Notes
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Jerry!  No I had not made the correlation in reference to ELECTRETS
but it should prove just as easy to "process" and maybe even easier.
You should be able to substitute a electrostatic field instead of a
magnetic field.  Many possibilities indeed!!!!
  As to where I've been, Who the hell knows, I sure don't!  wandering
around with my head up my ASS I guess. hehehe
  I too share your impatience waiting for mail order.  I mean nothing
like needing it yesterday and the only place that has what you want is
in bum-*uck-egypt and the only mail service is provided by a pack of
turtles.
  When is the best time to reach you by phone?  I'd like to discuss a
few things at high baud rates.....later......Mark.....
 
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Message 66                                     DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 11:32
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) Notes
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Hi Mark!  I will be here this weekend and have been "catching" the 
phone before the answering machine takes over...some fellow called up 
from Indiana or somewhere like that saying he had emigrated to the US 
from Germany around 1952...he says he has a fairly detailed article on 
the TESLA mystery power box as detailed in TESLAFE.ZIP....claims there 
were only three tubes and they were all BEAM RECTIFIER TYPES, hell he 
even gave us the tube numbers...anyway, seems this character has tons 
of info and is willing to translate a very rare German book with some 
chapters that everyone here will find of interest, so guess I will call 
him this weekend...as for right now, a physicist contact working with 
the Brown stuff just called and I have to look up something for 
him...he sent a kickass paper on the unified field and has some very 
stimulating ideas in regard to Aether, matter, levitation, etc...I need 
to get his paper on the BBS as it is quite good and has numerous 
correlations...as to the call, I will be home all weekend (or so 
planning at this moment, though I missed a lady friends' birthday and 
might feel so guilt-ridden that I will have to make a visit)...so, if 
you decide to call, let it ring twice, if I don't get it by then, hang 
up because the machine picks it after about 3....ok???   later...>>>  
Jerry
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Message 68                                     DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 16:36
From   : MIKE VANHOOSER                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Delphi file
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Nah, I'm not reconsidering too much, the board is a 99% probability, 
I'm just in overload over moving.  Could use some nice anti-gravs to 
help with the task.  If a working model exists that can support more 
than a few grams, bring it over and I'll buy the beer.  Later,  Mike
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Message 70                                     DATE/TIME: 04/24/93 22:15
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MIKE VANHOOSER
Subject: (R) Delphi file
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mike!  Well, not to that stage JUST YET, but closer every day...>>>  
Jerry
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Message 74                                     DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 10:46
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : CLAY TIPPEN
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Clay!  The Tesla BBS has been having some hardware problems as per 
Toby Grotz....Toby says they expect to be back online shortly once 
these problems are resolved....The Tesla BBS is normally online 24 
hours per day, so hang in there...I will post a public message once we 
find they have come back online....>>>  Jerry
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Message 75                                     DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 10:48
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : SHAWN BUTTS
Subject: (R) Daivid COpperfield
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Shawn!  From a book called "More Secrets", available at any decent 
libray, there are at least two of these books "Secrets" and the first 
one mentioned that have some interesting articles...>>>  Jerry
...guess I could trash it up by outright lying and say that Copperfield
...himself showed it to us, but in some cases, boring as it is, guess 
...the truth is best....we like to play with the conspiratorialists
...with an occasional "flame" story, just to see how much they will 
...buy.....fun and innocent enough...>>>  JWD
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Message 83                                     DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 17:30
From   : MARK MANSFIELD                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: WP printers
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Jerry,  How goes the gif's?
 
Here is a program called WPDRAW that I think will fill the bill.  It
says it will have a later version which will print .wpg files.  It may
be avaliable now (the date on the file is Nov. '90).  I tried to call
the BBS listed but did not get a answer.  I'll try later in the week.
 
cough, cough, sniff, sniff.....
 
I found one article on magnetic field measurement devices but it is 
changing fields only (AC).  My microswitch designers notebook has 
enough info to design a simple circuit that uses hall effect sensons.
I draw up one in WP format and download it to you.  
 
Gone for now.....Mark.....
 
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Message 84                                     DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 18:04
From   : WALTER MOHN
To     : ALL
Subject: Re: Upload of ELF-RES.ZIP
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

This file contains an article from Researach & Development Magazine, 
April 1993, concerning the potential health effects of extremely low 
frequency electromagnetic fields.
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Message 86                                     DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 19:49
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) WP printers
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mark!  Geez, you "sound" terrible...but you done good bubba!  I will 
take the file from the upload section and check it out....sounds like a 
winner that might be quite useful..
As to the Gaussmeter, thanks for the circuit, perhaps I can "modify" it 
to read static magnetic fields...it could be quite useful as we 
discussed on the phone....take care of yourself...>>>  Jerry
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Message 87                                     DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 19:52
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : WALTER MOHN
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Walter!  Yes, both Charles Yost and Steve Hall have given us full 
permission to place any of their material online but to tell you the 
truth I have not found the time to do so...and only a few of the 
articles is of a nature that would be good for KeelyNetters, though I 
think I did place an article written by some fellow about the 
inaccuracies in the "Philadelphia Experiment" story...uh-oh, perhaps 
that was at out Roundtable meeting instead, sometimes I get them 
confused....but yes, if you have the time and inclination for the ESJ 
articles, whatever you choose, I would appreciate the help!!  
Thanks...I also killed off the file totals so you won't get that 
harassing system message....later...>>>  Jerry
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Message 88                                     DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 19:55
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: TESLAFE detail
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!
In case you have taken the file TESLAFE describing the free energy 
device that Tesla constructed and tested in a Pierce Arrow automobile 
in the early 30's, we have been given additional information from a 
nice fellow in California.  He emigrated to the States from Germany in 
1952 and has been following the free energy field for many years.
He says there is a book or document that gives QUITE A FEW DETAILS on 
the Tesla Free Energy Converter and if he can persuade his German 
source to share it, he will send it our way for distribution to the 
various nets and researchers....
This fellow is definitely one of us and is HEAVY into the sharing of 
information with the express purpose of building working machines that 
EVERYONE can use.
Our new friend says that the Tesla F/E Converter used 3 vacuum tubes of 
the designation 70L7GT...this particular tube is listed as a BEAM POWER 
TUBE, also called a BEAM RECTIFIER TUBE.
One of our other contacts suggested that this might be a mercury tube 
which would produce the ION ACOUSTIC modulations in the mercury vapor 
that Moray King mentions in "Tapping the Zero Point Energy" and which 
T. Henry Moray says is necessary for the successful tapping of the 
vacuum energy.
On speaking with our California source this Sunday, he says his book on 
tubes does not show this to be a mercury tube although the possibility 
was at first fascinating.
One further comment made was that the mysterious power reduction as 
mentioned in the file ROSEN1 with the Sweet VTA might be due to a 
polarization current directly associated with the Earths magnetic 
fields.  He suggests that anyone working with such a device and 
experiencing this problem, might orient the machine so that the NORTH 
pole was DOWN, OR facing EAST OR facing WEST...these are possibilities 
and speculative based on the various magnetic field patterns of the 
earth.  Personally I think it has something to do with pressure or 
potential reductions in the ambient Aether for a given area...
Despite the Michelson-Morley findings claiming there is NO AETHER 
because they could not detect any aberrations, (they fail to 
prominently mention the 12 mile variation from experiment to experiment 
which would lead one to believe in Aether potential changes as a result 
of entrainment by the Earth).....
Anyway, thought this info might prove of use to all of us working on 
the duplication and improvement of such free energy devices.
Should our California friend succeed in acquiring the details of the 
Tesla F/E device and translating them to English, we will have them 
online TOOTSWEET (a pun??).....hang in there, we get closer everyday as 
long as everyone shares.....>>>  Jerry
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Message 89                                     DATE/TIME: 04/25/93 20:06
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: Magnet Conditioning
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!  
Well, thanks to an excellent piece of correlation by a Mr. Mark 
Mansfield, we might have a solid clue to the "secret" behind how the 
Sweet magnets are "conditioned".
Rosenthal says that Floyd Sweet had figured out a way to make a magnet 
record a given frequency in just about any range, he mentions 
specifically 60CPS to 400CPS...
We had been told it had something to do with heating but here is the 
inside scoop...
When a magnet is heated and it reaches a certain temperature (called 
the CURIE temperature) it will LOSE its magnetic field....
When the magnet is allowed to cool BELOW the CURIE temperature, the 
magnetic field RETURNS.
Mark suggests that a coil be wrapped around a magnet and the magnet 
heated until it reaches the CURIE temperature so that it will "forget" 
it's magnetic field.
At that time, the desired frequency is applied to the coil and 
sustained WHILE THE COIL IS COOLED to a temperature BELOW the CURIE 
temperature....
When this is done, the domains will have "recorded" the applied 
frequency.  Then when the "tickler" or excitation coils are excited at 
the "recorded" frequency, a resonance is established which serves to 
open the "gateway" for the vacuum energy...
More details on this in an upcoming series of .GIFs as well as files 
'splaining the process....so don't bust a gut thinking it stops with 
this....thanks to MARK for the ELECTRET analogy...excellent bit of 
correlation although he says he had not thought of the ELECTRETS per 
se...but "I like it!".....>>>  Jerry
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Message 93                                     DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 01:55
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : GUY RESH
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Guy!  I am told in a phone call that there is an uploaded file 
written by Sweet himself...just about to offload it to investigate what 
the hell it is....also, a friend from Tennessee uploaded a file which 
he says is supposed to allow one to VIEW and PRINT .WPG files....I am 
going to check that out also since if so, then all our picture files 
will also be offer in .WPG format since we will have a downloadable 
PD/Shareware program to allow everyone (IBMers to print/view)...man, 
that will be great since the .WPG format is so compact and clean..
Anyway, hope you read the messages about magnet conditioning and the 
TESLA box future info...well, very late and I need to do a bit more 
before I can sleep...take care...>>>  Jerry
...as for Ross, I watched him also and he does tend to get me upset with
...the status quo and how so many are so screwed up that we currently 
...have in power....nothing we can really do except keep plugging along 
...with the expectation that an experiment will lead to a reproducable
...F/E or antigrav device that can be released to the masses (techtypes)
...of course as most folks won't at first get the import of it..
...When such a "seeming" miracle event occurs AND it begins to be 
...duplicated everywhere around the world, it will no doubt raise hell
...with the energy and oil industries....it would be preferable to 
...slowly phase such devices into the industrial base but based on the
...tremendous number of previous devices that have NOT YET come to 
...and those for a multitude of reasons, the networking method is the
...ONLY method that offers hope for the broadest distribution in the 
...shortest time frame....well....I got on the soap box FOR YOU..>>> JWD
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Message 95                                     DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 10:42
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : ROD FREDLUND
Subject: (R) Hi!
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Rod!  I plan to get your disks out this week....and I have a scanner 
with OCR but they are so slow!!!  Am currently working on the "plans" 
for the Sweet machine in the form of .GIFs and Mark Mansfield sent up a 
file that allows one to VIEW .WPG files...it says in the .DOCs that a 
later version will allow PRINTING...if I can get this later version, 
then all the graphic files will be listed as .GIF'S and as .WPG since 
the .WPG is so compact...
Yes, it seems there has been plenty of activity lately and I'd like to 
be able to focus more on getting some new info out...and now a 
"surprise" visit from my mother so that should take up about a 
week...but she knows how I am with computers so I use "some" of that 
time to do computer work....she is going to help me with a garage sale 
to get rid of some of the junk that I have accumulated (not electronic) 
of course as they stuff is quite useable.
As to your idea of using a coil simply connected to the AC line to 
provide 60CPS, it should work OK since I think most everyone would 
prefer the use of 60CPS....in fact, the energy from the SWEET machine 
can be rectified for use as DC or simply use as is in the form of 
AC..that is one of the lures for this particular machine, not only the 
ability to interchange between AC/DC but it also drives inductive or 
resistive loads....well, stuff to do, mow the lawn, do the laundry, you 
know all the support bs....later...>>>  Jerry
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Message 96                                     DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 12:49
From   : BOB PADDOCK                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Spelling!
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

 | JD>Oh, by the way, the correct spelling is BISMUTH...
 | JD>can't help it, I like correct spelling....
 |
 |      My frequent reply to spelling errors:
 |
 | Spelling:   See  "The New Age of REASON" by John M.  Culkin,
 | Science Digest-August 1981.
 |      "The English alphabet is pure insanity.   It can hardly
 | spell  any  word in the language with any  large  degree  of
 | certainty.  ...The  sillinesses of the English alphabet  are
 | quite beyond  enumeration.  Where as the English orthography
 | needs...simplifying,  the  English alphabet needs it two  or
 | three million times more." -  Mark Twain.
 |      ...an  intelligent child who is bidden to spell "DEBT",
 | and  very  properly  spells it "D-E-T",  is  canned  for  not
 | spelling it with a "B" because Julius Caesar spelled it with
 | a "B".-George Bernard Shaw.
 | See  also:"Alfubet F/\R hu Komput.r /_\j"  (Title  is  close
 | as  I  could get in ASCII.)  by John Culkin-Science  Digest-
 | August  1982.   "UNIFON,  a phonetic alphabet that  is  five
 | times  more  efficient  than our  ABC's,  may  revolutionize
 | reading  and  writing-and help us  communicate  better  with
 | computers."..."Fans  of  Unifon don't want to  wait  another
 | 3,000  years   before  eliminating  the  illogic  from   our
 | language."  The  UNIFON  Alphabet (Trade mark)  is  by  John
 | Malone.
 |
 
:-)
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Message 97                                     DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 12:52
From   : BOB PADDOCK                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) DIA-Magnetic
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

 | JD>....Diamagnetic materials are SLIGHTLY LESS
 | JD>....permeable, thus negative, aligning ACROSS the field.
 | 
 |      This is what I thought Dia-magnetic meant, didn't know that the
 | rest went along with it.
 | 
 |      I have a problem saying that wood or plastic is in any form
 | magnetic tho..???
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Message 98                                     DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 12:53
From   : BOB PADDOCK                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Stuff Part #1
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

 |     I'm moving into a new house, in the process I was cleaning my
 | files.  The junk presented below applies to several of the messages 
on
 | here recently Part 1:
 | 
 | ============================================
 | 
 |      "Are Sine Waves Sacred?" by Irving M. Gottlieb in 73 Magazine
 |      May 1986
 | 
 | ============================================
 | 
 |      "Kenyon, Dr. Keith:  GENERATOR-ALTERNATOR --- 125% efficiency
 | claimed and demonstrated!  "Makes use of the magnetic lines of force 
on
 | both sides of the magnets, by turning the concept of ordinary 
generators
 | inside out.  A disk with magnets on it spins, with stationary 
windings
 | on both sides of the spining disk. Thus greater efficiency is
 | available."  The generator is further distinguished by a thick 
aluminum
 | band running around the rim of the generator wheel; i is believed 
that
 | the Al is the key to the "extra" energy...6 Articles & USP...38 pp."
 | 
 | Rex Research K6-KEN / 122-KEN
 | 
 | USP: 4,438,342: 03/20/1984 "Novel Hybrid Electric Vehicle"
 | 
 | ============================================
 | 
 |      "The Mathematic Laws of sound: (Relastionship of sound to
 | gravity)" by Barbra Hero.  Energy Unlimited #12.
 | 
 | ============================================
 | 
 |      "SEE, T.J.:  WAVE THEORY OF GRAVITATION --- Despite high
 | recommendation by Tesla and by psychic E. Cayce and others, the
 | "Wave-Theory of the Aether" has been quite completely ignored by most
 | all scientists.  The noted astronomer Capt. T.J...J See explained
 | gravitational, magnetic and electrostatic fields as longitudinal or
 | compression waves in the Aether, of approximately the same magnitude 
as
 | the distances over which they operate.  Light, head and radio are
 | described as transverse or shear waves in the Aether...When the
 | longitudinal Aether waves that radiate from masses are coupled, they
 | produce a relative aether vacuum between them, and the bodies are 
pushed
 | together.  The apparent mass of an accelerating body is caused by
 | increasing drag resistance from the viscous aether..  If a body is
 | rotated at a certain speed, an associated aether vacuum is produced
 | which prevents transmission of the gravitational force.  This opens 
the
 | way to anti-gravity levitation..The theories of Ch. Brush, Dr.Nieper,
 | Prof Niper (v.i.) all find unification herein...Includes 
bibliography,
 | review, and 2 articles by See introducing his ideas...30 pp."
 | Rex Research: 195-SEE
 | 
 | ============================================
 | 
 |      "EINSTEIN, Albert: UNIFIED FIELD THEORY --- "Zur Einheitlichen
 | Feld-Therie" is the alleged "unfinished/incomplete/missing" jewel of
 | E.'s theorizing.  "Einstein did indeed complete a version of his
 | 'Unified Field Theory for Gravitation and Electricity' in the period
 | 1925-27.  The results published in German, appeared in Prussian
 | scientific journals for 1925 and 1927." And here they are now, with
 | commentaries"
 | Rex Research: E5-EIN/Einstein: U.F.T.
 | 
 | ============================================
 | 
 |      We where attributing this to T.T.Brown a few dozen messages ago:
 | 
 |      "CRAIG, Palme
 | developed a Hall Effect device consisting of a stack of Bismuth films
 | sandwiched with copper coils.  The device enabled good radio 
reception
 | without vacuum tubes or batteries!  Craig discovered and additive
 | principle that generates several volts in very low magnetic fields
 | (e.e., Earth strength, not kilo-gausses as in conventional Hall 
Effect
 | devices -- none of which can  do anything that this can).. "Gives the
 | Hall Effect a practical importance as a rectifier, especially in 
radio &
 | similar applications"--Here is a pre-transistor
 | detector-amplifier-oscillator-rectifier-battery all in one tiny 
device!
 | What more do you want" 2 Articles, 3 USP."
 | Rex Research: 060-CRA/C11-CRA
 | 
 | USP 1,778,796 7/9/1926|7/14/1929
 | USP 1,825,855
 | USP 1,822,129 09/08/1931
 | 
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Message 99                                     DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 12:56
From   : BOB PADDOCK                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Stuff Part #2
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

 |     I'm moving into a new house, in the process I was cleaning my
 | files.  The junk presented below applies to several of the messages 
on
 | here recently Part 2:
 |
 | ============================================
 |
 |      "EHRENHAFT, Felix: THE MICRO-MAGNET --- Between the 1920s and
 | 1940s, Prof. Ehrenhaft (DIR., Physics Dept., Univ. Vienna) performed
 | numerous experiments with "impossible" anomalous magnetic phenomena 
that
 | upset all ideas about magnetism.  He was able to decompose water with
 | permanent magnets -- and the Alinico magnet suffered a 10& loss in
 | strength over 24 hours!.  This offers evidence for the existence of a
 | "Magnet Current" (Nowadays called Monopoles..Ehrenhaft called them
 | "Micro-Magnets".  His discoveries were confirmed by others, and it 
was
 | speculated that the tests might "lead to momentous applications in 
power
 | machiner of the future"--but not yet...The implications of 
Ehrenhaft's
 | work have been inexplicably ignored and forgotten.  Now the call for
 | replication and development.  Here are complete experimental details,
 | ect., in 10 articles..50pp."
 | Rex Research: 077-EHR/E3-EH1
 |
 | ============================================
 |
 |      "CATT, Ivor: THEORY H --- The "Heaviside Signal" offers an
 | alternative perspective of the transverse EM wave and the problem of
 | "Displacement Current" devised by Maxwell to explain away paradoxical
 | behavior of capacitors..."Instead of the familiar "rolling wave" idea
 r postulates
 | and unchanging slab of ExH energy travelling forward at the speed of
 | light, and names it the Heaviside Signal after a concept expressed in
 | the writings of Oliver Heaviside.  This process does not reply on a
 | causal relationship between the electric and magnetic fields, which 
are
 | seen as coexistent."  Includes: Discussions of some weaknesses in the
 | traditional approach to EM theory, and the establishment of sounder
 | foundation "Waves in Space"  "Hidden Messages in Maxwell's Equations"
 | ..8 Articles"
 |
 | Rex Research: 049-CAT/C2-CAT
 |
 |      I can make sence of this one, did T.E.Beardon read this
 | before he did his? :-)
 |
 | ============================================
 
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Message 101                                    DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 17:31
From   : DAVID MCWHERTER
To     : ALL
Subject: Borderland Sciences
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Just wondering if anyone out there knows how to get in touch with 
Borderland Sciences...thanks.
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Message 102                                    DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 17:57
From   : MARK MANSFIELD                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Magnetic Fields
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Jerry,  I'm uploading a ascii file called magcheck.asc that is a
circuit for a simple and cheap device for checking magnetic fields.
 
I didn't spend a lot of time spicing it up or giving detailed disc.
for everything because it is so simple.
 
I think it will fill the bill in what you asked for though.  It can be
calibrated with a known magnetic field strength.  Microswitch has a
small magnet that has a 420 gauss field part no. 101MG4.
 
Sprague made a Hall Effect sensor a few years ago but have discon-
tinued it.  The part no. is UGN3501M.  It would fill the bill even
better because it has differential outputs and looks to be more accu-
rate for your and mine's use.  I called Newark Electronics as well as
a distributor in Louisville, KY but neither had any left in stock.  I
would like to get a few of this part if possible.
 
I'll mail you some app. notes from a sprague designers book that has
lots of stuff on calibration of these things.
 
I've ordered some of the UGN3501U devices from Newark (17 to be exact)
so don't order any yourself, I'll send you some.  I had to meet their
$25 min. order.
 
My magnets are starving for a little hyperspatial gateway influx!!!!!!
....hint.....hint.....
 
I'll be in touch......Mark.....
 
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Message 105                                    DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 21:14
From   : MIKE HUGHES                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: gravity3.asc - more info
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

In the file GRAVITY3.ASC which describes building a resonant
gravity field coil - there is an appendix by Joseph Misiolek
giving info on a replacement modulator coil. Do you know if this
coil is wound as a toroid over the second coil or as a larger solenoid
coil around the periphery of the "donut"?
                             --------------------
NOTE: This message has been FORWARDED to Joseph Misiolek by 
      Mike Hughes on 05/03/93 at 19:42
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Message 108                                    DATE/TIME: 04/26/93 23:22
From   : BRYANT STAVELY                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: First Saturday?
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hey dare...I'm in need of a new hard drive for an old 80286 PC and 
would like to shop the First Saturday crowd.  Where is it at and when?  
I know you've been there before.  Please and thanks.
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Message 109                                    DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 06:24
From   : BOB PADDOCK                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Notes
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

 |
 | JWD> I understand that the CURIE temperature, will cause
 | JWD> a magnet to lose all its field, but when recooled,
 | JWD> it regains the field...
 |
 |      I know this isn't directly related to this context, but I
 | thought I would bring it up.
 |
 |      Tesla's Patent #428,057 May 13/1890 "Pyromagneto-Electric
 | Generator" uses this effect to generate power.  By having a magnet
 | oscillating above and below its Curie temperature.
 |
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Message 110                                    DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:09
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BOB PADDOCK
Subject: (R) DIA-Magnetic
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bob!  Well, you know, it would seem that EVERYTHING should be 
magnetic to "some" extent since everything has electrons spinning which 
would have an associated magnetic field, though very weak, I am sure..
Anyway,  I guess this would relate more specifically to not the micro 
effect of elements but rather a more global macro effect of the mass 
aggregate...more to worry about...>>>  Jerry
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Message 112                                    DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:12
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : DAVID MCWHERTER
Subject: (R) Security Error - Phone Number
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi David!  Don't know what I can do here, only one other fellow is 
having problems and he is running an AMIGA with some odd type of 
modem......this one is a US Robotics and seems to be working OK as far 
as I can tell...>>>  Jerry
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Message 113                                    DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:13
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : DAVID MCWHERTER
Subject: (R) Borderland Sciences
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi David!  Download the CONTACT1.ZIP list, it has the names and 
addresses of many of our contacts including Tom Brown at Borderland 
Sciences....>>>  Jerry
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Message 114                                    DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:15
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) Magnetic Fields
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mark!  Sounds like you've been busy....I don't really keep up with 
the current stuff as in Radio Electronics, etc...just every now and 
then, have more than enough to work on using the technology I 
know...and that seems to be enough....I just want to fly without a 
plane!....got part of the Sweet diagram done yesterday and am expecting 
a total of about 4 .GIFs with some ASCII explanatory text...that should 
get folks excited enough to do some damage....>>>  Jerry
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Message 115                                    DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:17
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : WARREN CURRY
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Warren!  These things happen, heck, I nearly missed last months 
meeting...that is the first in 7 meetings that I have not been able to 
get out mailers, though I called everyone I could find numbers for or 
get an answer...I did not leave a cover sheet so Ron did not know just 
what was supposed to be mailed out....worked out just fine just the 
same as we met a really interesting lady and went over later to see her 
machine...she will return in about a month...see you at the 
meeting...>>>  Jerry
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Message 116                                    DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:19
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MIKE HUGHES
Subject: (R) gravity3.asc - more info
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mike!  I don't really know, that is kind of "old" info but you can 
leave a message to Joe here and he will get it when he next logs on 
...he is listed as JOSEPH MISIOLEK so that the system will know to 
direct the message to his E-Mail...good luck and I would be EXTREMELY 
CAREFUL working with this particular circuit...>>>  Jerry
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Message 118                                    DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:21
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BRYANT STAVELY
Subject: (R) First Saturday?
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bryant!  I believe it is the 2nd Saturday of each month and is 
located at Ross and Central (on the city side)....you can't miss it as 
most of the parking spaces are taken up with tables and trucks selling 
stuff....get THERE EARLY as the good stuff goes kind of fast...they 
start at about 7AM...you might call Rick Sheppard, he frequents it but 
I have not been in a long time...too much that I can't get to now...
Though I picked up a 10MB hard drive about 2 years ago for $10...never 
used it though....did you see Steve Blows column about radio station 
KUKU (KRLD) and Ron Engleman...man he tore up the program and the 
listeners...I thought more than unfairly...the show has served a 
purpose in getting out the WACO info to a greater majority of folks 
despite all the conspiracy types that did call in...but anyone can see, 
just watching the video tapes, where the fire came from...a puzzle...
later...>>>  Jerry
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Message 119                                    DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 09:25
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BOB PADDOCK
Subject: (R) Notes
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bob!  WOW, I will have to look into that patent!  Perhaps you know 
of something I once read about called a PIEZOBARIC chamber which was 
supposed to produce an intense COLD??  Now we would think in terms of 
the thermoelectric coolers that are so prominent, but this thing got 
down into the -100s...never found any details on it though...One fellow 
said you could gang the thermoelectric units to get successively cooler 
temperatures but -100s??  later...>>>  Jerry
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Message 122                                    DATE/TIME: 04/27/93 20:42
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) Notes
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mark!  Yes, I took down that Rainbow number also but have not have a 
chance to call yet...and the Bloch Wall has long been of interest to me 
since first reading about it in the work or Davis/Rawls...they are the 
fellows who discovered the TRUE pattern of magnetic field flow which is 
still NOT generally known or taught...there are multiple tests to prove 
what they found...As to my mother, that is NEXT month.
And as for the SWEET file, turns out to be about 4 postscript documents 
that I can't print just yet....have to see what I have that can read 
them...but there is no text, just the 4 diagrams....I am told these 
were drawn up by Sweet himself....later...>>>  Jerry
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Message 123                                    DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 01:53
From   : BILL BEATY                         -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Levitation Machine?
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Oh no!  Someone else has discovered my idea for a museum exhibit!
I guess it had to happen.  Seriously, I have several pages of
ideas and drawings I came up with two years ago for a maglev
demonstration which are identical to your inventor's creation. 
I'll be happy to mail copies to any interested parties. (Too
bad they're not copyrighted or notarized!)
 
One other way to do it: cover a tabletop with thick aluminum
rods, support and spin the rods on axis at high speed, then place
a strong magnet over this bed of moving metal.  The magnet
will hover.
 
The secret here is that magnets repel all conductive materials
briefly when the two are brought near each other.  The
repulsion is caused purely by eddy currents, and it works with
copper, aluminum, etc.  (With superconductors the eddy currents
do not die away, so the repulsion is not just a brief thing, it
is sustained forever.)  So in a way, a rotating copper or aluminum
object can act much like a superconductor.  It will repel a magnet
continuously.  It will also tend to throw the magnet outward
in the direction of rotation, an effect caused by the field lines
of the magnet becoming "stuck" in the moving metal.
 
Have you heard of the maglev train that contains DC magnets and 
can only levitate over its heavy wide track of aluminum when the
train is moving fast?  The invention above is the same thing,
except the aluminum track is moving and the magnet "flys" in place.
 
Anyone can try this: obtain a small neodymium "supermagnet" and
a large hunk of copper or aluminum.  Hold the two in your hands
and pass one over the other rapidly.  You will feel a "syrupy"
feeling of magnetic drag.  If you do it for a while, you will
also notice a slight repulsion as the magnet moves across the
metal.
 
I've worked on the original of the "jumping ring" museum exhibit 
in question, and you are right: it works in a very similar
way.  When the capacitor is discharged into the coil, an immense
magnetic field is generated briefly.  The electromagnet and the
aluminum ring then repel each other violently.  Since the ring
is free to move, it gets flung upwards as if it had been hit by
a hammer blow.  (MUSEUM TRIVIA: the "jumping ring" exhibit was
invented by Harold "Doc" Edgerton of MIT, also the inventor of
strobe light, and was first installed at the Museum of Science
in Boston.  Other museums have copied the exhibit)
 
        - Bill Beaty
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Message 125                                    DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 09:09
From   : BOB PADDOCK                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Notes
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

 | JWD> Perhaps you know of something I once read about called a
 | JWD> PIEZOBARIC chamber which was supposed to produce an intense
 | JWD> COLD??
 |
 |      Two thing that come to mind are some thing called a
 | Intermittent Absorption Refrigerator.  You heat one end and the
 | other end gets very cold.  The other is a vortex tube.  You put
 | compressed air in the middle and very hot air comes out one end,
 | and very cold air comes out the other.  You can buy vortex tubes
 | commercially, they are used for spot cooling of things like drill
 | bits on large industrial drills.  In Popular Mechanics there were
 | complete construction details if your good a plumbing.
 |
 |      Nether of these sound like the 'chamber' that you are
 | looking for tho.
 |
 | 
======================================================================
 |
 |      KEITH, David: INTERMITTENT ABSORPTION REFRIGERATOR ---
 | This is the simplest and most compact, low tech refridgerator
 | system:  It utilizes any heat source to produce sub-zero
 | temperatures for as long as 48 hours.  Invented in the 1920s,
 | marketed a while, then disappeared..Now it's being revived and
 | redeveloped.  Consists of 2 balls (hot & cold) connected with
 | pipe, charged with self-circulating household ammonia water.
 | Do-it-your self with these 2 articles and complete US patent (14
 | pp.)
 |
 | Rex Research: 121-KEI/K5-KEI
 |
 | "The "Heat Makes Cold" Refrigeration Unit": in Scientific
 | American, issue unknown.
 |
 | "The Incredible Wood-Burning Refrigerator" in Mother Earth News,
 | issue unknown.  Reference to Dale Degler.
 |
 | USP: 1,740,737  "Refrigerating Device" 12/24/1929
 |
 | 
======================================================================
 |
 |      Can you give any more details about the PIEZOBARIC
 | chamber, like what is its input?  I might know it by an other
 | name.  I'll keep a eye out for info...
 |
 
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Message 126                                    DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 09:34
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BILL BEATY
Subject: (R) Levitation Machine?
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bill!  Well, well, another "late" inventor....I was fascinated by 
the video but when the guys said the levitated mass was NOT magnetic, 
thats what drew my interest....I guess a creative person could come up 
with something useful based on this effect, (and I don't mean just 
toys)...bit I have other rats to kill...thanks for the comments and 
background...always good to find correlations......>>>  Jerry
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Message 128                                    DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 09:41
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BOB PADDOCK
Subject: (R) Notes
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bob!  As I understand it, this ammonia business has quite some 
possibilities as a thermodynamic free energy system, there is a file 
here (can't think of the name of it) that talks about some Danish 
scientist who claims he had an F/E device based on this fluid and the 
Carnot cycle..
But back to the business at hand, the name itself implies using 
crystals and that's about all I know about it....the intent was to get 
away from a CFC type refrigerant system and go "solid state"...and I 
just can't see how such low temperatures could be accomplished without 
using some kind of diffusion process....DAMN, you must be organized to 
be able to pull up such neat stuff so fast, I have to rely on my aging 
brain and hoping I can find the right pile...some day...>>>  Jerry
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Message 131                                    DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 15:58
From   : DAVID MCWHERTER
To     : ALL
Subject: Help
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

I was wondering what this aether really is.  Is it a field(substance) 
which is everywhere that acts the same way with light as 
air/water/plastic or any other type of material does with sound?  This 
sounds probable to me because of the relatively slow speed that light 
travels at.  It makes you think that there is some type of physical 
compression/expansion that would consume minutes amount of time for 
each compression/expansion that the light wave propegates through.  I'm 
not sure if that sounds right...at least I understand it.  
Secondly, I was wondering if it might be possible to have/build a 
diamagnet, not a diamagnetic substance.  If so, what would, if 
anything, be different when constructing, say, a motor with one.  Also, 
I'd like to get in touch with a place that sells bismuth bars or rods, 
if anyone knows of a place that sells it.   I think that strontium 
 
I think that I read that strontium is a diamagnetic substance.  This 
makes me think of whether barium is diamagnetic because I either read 
or someone told me that strontium ferrite is one of the dielectrics 
that TT Brown played around with.  
 
Thirdly, what is this negative electricity?  I read a bit about it, but 
what, exactly is it? 
Thats all for today, May you find prosperity in your long journey to 
truth, my son...
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Message 132                                    DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 16:09
From   : DAVID MCWHERTER
To     : ALL
Subject: PS
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

PS:  Diamagnets/magndiamagnetic substances do not lose their strengths 
when subjected to extreme heat....
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Message 133                                    DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 18:38
From   : DAVID RAMOS                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : CHRIS WIERICKS
Subject: Einstein's Unified Field Theory
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hey Chris, thanks for the suggestion, I'll download TECH_1.ASC if its 
available here.  Also, thanks for Rex Research's address, I think I'll 
give them a note and see what they are working on.
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Message 134                                    DATE/TIME: 04/28/93 18:41
From   : DAVID RAMOS                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: New Friend from India
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hey jerry,
Man, I think we are on a roll here!  I sure would like to know about 
that book from the Indian friend who came through Germany.  In fact, 
DON'T LET THIS GET AWAY UNTIL WE GET ALL WE CAN!  Man, am I excited!!  
By the way, If you're looking for a magnetic meter of some type, this 
issue of HOME POWER magazine has one that can be made from a few Radio 
Shack parts and a DVM.  If you would like it lemme know, I'll mail you 
a copy...
 
COME ON GUYS, LETS GET THIS MAGNETISM/GRAVITY STUFF FIGURED OUT AND 
GIVE THIS COUNTRY SOME REAL HARDWARE TO BE PROUD ABOUT...
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Message 137                                    DATE/TIME: 04/29/93 02:33
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : DAVID RAMOS
Subject: (R) New Friend from India
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi David!  I don't know anything about an Indian but I think you 
misunderstood the post...the original indicated the guy was from 
Germany and LIVED in Indiana...in fact, on speaking with him, he came 
from Germany and LIVES in California...not of import but it simply 
corrects for the facts.  
He says the fellow who has this info is VERY DIFFICULT to deal with but 
if he can "suck up" to him in the proper way, he might be able to these 
very important papers...his ability to translate from the German is 
also a great plus which will work to our favor.
I also have some major leads on the Sweet machine and am currently 
working on several .GIFs that should blow everyone away...it all takes 
time however and I have to work as a corporate slave for my 
living...somebodys gotta pay for this stuff....later...>>>  Jerry
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Message 139                                    DATE/TIME: 04/29/93 02:38
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BRYANT STAVELY
Subject: (R) First Saturday?
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bryant!  Yes, call Rick at 424-5855 (guess whose number that 
is?)...you might leave him a message unless he happens to be there, but 
he almost never answers the phone because it belongs to someone 
else...>>>  Jerry
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Message 140                                    DATE/TIME: 04/29/93 09:47
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: Cloned Organs
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!
Something has been bugging me lately in regard to a visit from a fellow 
out in California.  I can't even remember his name but he was telling 
me there was a doctor in Germany who was successfully cloning complete 
human organs which could be transplanted back into the donor.
The idea was that any diseased or defective organ had SOME healthy 
tissue.  A sample of that tissue was taken and grown through the 
cloning process until a complete organ had been generated.
Once this was done, the diseased organ was removed and the new organ 
put in its place.  Since the tissue came from the donor originally, 
there was no rejection factor.
My problem with this is the "differentiation" process which defines 
just what type of tissue grows in what section of the body....
Muscle is quite different from liver and liver is quite different from 
kidney tissue...etc...
Sheldrakes morphogenetic field and Burr's Electrodynamic field are 
believed to be the "organizers" of the body matrix, that is, they 
define and create the patterns which govern the formation of specific 
tissue for a specific function in a given section of the body.
From my understanding of cloning, differentiated tissue such as liver 
or kidney, when removed from the body, fed and nurtured properly, will 
de-differentiate into a mass of tissue that is only somewhat the same 
kind of tissue.  It does not grow into a complete organ nor does the 
tissue remain the same.
If this is so, then perhaps this doctor found a way to maintain an 
artificial formative environment to provide a matrix in which the 
tissue can grow a complete organ.
This subject is intensely interesting because if it can be done, it 
would provide a MAJOR ADVANCE in medicine for folks such as diabetics, 
dialysis, heart, liver, etc. patients who have defective organs...not 
to mention the many other transplant patients who die before a donor is 
actually found.
So, I would greatly appreciate your thoughts and comments on this 
matter, particularly information regarding this doctor...I did not get 
his name as the fellow promised he would send me the man's book (after 
I paid him $30).  That has not happened and I kick myself for at least 
not writing down the name.
Well, another aspect of life that has tremendous potential to a great 
number of folks that might get swept under the rug if no one looks into 
it....thanks for whatever you might come up with...>>>  Jerry
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Message 141                                    DATE/TIME: 04/29/93 18:24
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: Sweet related files
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!  Finally got the drawings done that relate to the SWEET VTA.  
Do a new files listing for any new .GIFs and you can download and flame 
me out as you wish.  I can take it....but I stand by the BLOCH Wall 
effects and the Davis/Rawls work as it is so far advanced from common 
accepted magnetic concepts as to render them primitive....
What is most intriguing is how the bifilar winding of the output coils 
essentially cancels out the magnetic field from the windings, thus 
outputting only what Hooper calls an "electric" or "motional" field.
That is, it is not capacitive, resistive or inductive...can we say 
"Homing Conductance" achieved on a mechanical level??...  
Comments on the .GIFs or whatever???.............>>>  Jerry
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Message 144                                    DATE/TIME: 04/29/93 21:03
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : SCOTT KIRK
Subject: (R) Re: Upload of 70L7GT.TXT
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Scott!  I have not seen the specs or anything beyond what the fellow 
told us on the phone....guess we will have to wait for what he gets 
from his German contact...you know, it does not take POWER to get the 
free energy or anti-grav effects, simply a BIASING signal that serves 
to "influence" or "re-direct" the flow....kind of like the passive 
effect of the mirrored reflectors in a laser...they do nothing but 
reflect until the intensity of the beam overcomes their reflective 
ability, at which the now very powerful beam escapes...we shall 
see...>>>  Jerry
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Message 148                                    DATE/TIME: 04/30/93 10:28
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MATTHEW HALEY
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Matt!  And welcome to Keelynet....the newsletter kind of got out of 
hand so I don't even try to do that anymore, much as I would like 
to...someday maybe will start it up again but for now, just too much 
to do....thanks for asking...>>>  Jerry
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Message 149                                    DATE/TIME: 04/30/93 10:29
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) Notes
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mark!  No, we here at KeelyNet ENCOURAGE the OPEN sharing of 
information....stuff that is proprietary or under development is in 
"higher" sections not available to the general public so that is where 
some of the weirder and more private info is.
As to most comments, that is why I leave them open in the 'A' section 
and/or reply to "private" comments with comments left in the 'A' 
section also...of course, if it is sensitive or otherwise contains 
information that should not be publicly posted, then of course it is 
toggled private...
So, you got a buzz eh???  Would it not be the coil windings vibrating 
in the magnetic field?  I don't know as I don't currently have the 
magnets that I feel will do the job...personally, I don't think you 
HAVE to have the barium ferrite, just that they might be more efficient 
or yield a higher output.
I kind of think if it works at all as Sweet found (and as mentioned in 
ROSEN1) then just about any higher density magnet will work, i.e. 5 up 
to 8 grade as specified....the real test is to build it...
Of course, in the video, one wonders WHY he shows the magnets being 
ganged with like poles together and bound tightly to keep them under 
contact...I got the impression he was imparting some kind of useable 
information and I think the .GIFs show how that would assist in the 
"densest" possible virtual Bloch Wall....ah well, things to do, still 
lots to catch up on from the conference (you know, all the business 
cards with things folks want more info on)....later...>>>  Jerry
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Message 150                                    DATE/TIME: 04/30/93 10:38
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) Stuff
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mark!  Yes, and I forgot to leave you a message to that effect...I 
DID leave a public message so guess it wasn't a total bust, most people 
check the new files as a habit on almost every call, so figured someone 
would catch it....
Breathlessly awaiting your comments, notice I "blamed" you for the 
conditioning correlation....hehehe...a bit of infamy as it makes the 
rounds, eh???....>>>  Jerry
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Message 151                                    DATE/TIME: 04/30/93 10:40
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : RUSSELL ADAMS
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Russell!  Glad you like it, say the word if you need higher access 
for more time and file totals per call...nothing is sacred here...>>>  
Jerry
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Message 153                                    DATE/TIME: 04/30/93 13:59
From   : DAVID RAMOS                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : KEN BOZEMAN
Subject: Home Power article
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hey Ken,
I'll be sending you that copy before the weekend is over...laters...
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Message 154                                    DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 00:08
From   : MATTHEW HALEY
To     : ALL
Subject: Starlite
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

I'm not sure if this has been talked about here yet or not, but there's 
an interesting article in the April 26 issue of Chemical and 
Engineering News, about a man by the name of Maurice Ward, who without 
a scientific degree of any kind, is purported to have invented (well, 
more like happened upon) a material he has dubbed 'Starlite'. This is 
believed to be made up of as many as 21 ingredients--at least two or 
three conventional organic polymers(such as polypropylene) mixed with 
organic and inorganic additives including borates and ceramics. At 
least 80% of the material is said to be organic polymer. The 
fascinating thing about this material is it's amazing resilience and 
energy-dissipating properties. It has been tested at the Ministry of 
Defence labs in the UK, as well as the White Sands Missile Range in New 
Mexico, where it was subjected to simulated nuclear flashes that 
generated temperatures of up to 10,000 degrees C, with little or no 
damage to the sample. It has also been shown to deflect laser energy. 
Laser blasts that would normally burn holes through ordinary plastics 
are said to leave Starlite samples virtually unscathed. This material 
apparently protects itself from laser beams by forming a plasma at the 
irradiation site, and that plasma scatters the incident light. It has 
been hypothesized that the composite produces microstructures beneath 
its surface that act to specularly reflect the radiation. Comments--MH
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Message 157                                    DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 13:21
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : RONALD DEKEYZER
Subject: Line Noise
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Ronald!  Sorry about all that line noise...tell you what, leave me 
your mailing address in a private message along with a list of the 
files you want and what kind of disk format (1.2MB, 1.44MB) IBM or MAC 
and I will mail you the files to save you the trouble..OK??  Up to you 
fellow!...>>>  Jerry
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Message 160                                    DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 13:53
From   : RONALD DEKEYZER                    -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: TIME
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

PLEASE EXTEND MY TIME SO I CAN DOWNLOAD 'ALLFILES.ZIP' .
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Message 162                                    DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 19:24
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BRYANT STAVELY
Subject: (R) Where DID that masked man go?
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bryant!  I have not seen him either, perhaps his droid batteries are 
down??  But methinks the conspiracy stuff is a PRIMARY forte rather 
than the REAL information (beyond medical of course)....who knows??
Did you get a hard drive??  You might post a message here and someone 
might have one to sell....>>>  Jerry
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Message 163                                    DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 19:28
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : RONALD DEKEYZER
Subject: (R) TIME
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Ronald!  OK, got your address and everything so will send you the 
non-technical as you requested.  Really sorry about that line noise but 
the overseas connections are sometimes pretty pitiful.  You are the 
first from the Antilles but we have had callers from Spain, England, 
Australia, Germany, Russia, Denmark, Sweden, Guam, Hawaii and other 
areas and I don't recall seeing that much noise...
Anyway, will run off in 3.5, 1.44MB and mail out next week...>>>  Jerry
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Message 164                                    DATE/TIME: 05/01/93 22:20
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: Corrections to VTA1 & VTA2
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!
Damn, before I get FLAMED by everyone for one major GLARING error and a 
lack of precision in another file, I should APOLOGIZE for posting these 
without waiting at least one day to re-read them....as one writes what 
appears to be accurate information, often the inspiration of the moment 
occludes errors, so I usually wait at least one day to give my mind 
time to settle.
So, the specific errors are :
    VTA1.GIF - blatantly and FALSELY states an output of up to 1000KW!
               Well, let's get more real and try 1000 Watts or 1 
               Kilowatt.  Don't know how I let this slip by and it is
               so embarrassing....anyway, there is a NEW and CORRECTED
               VTA1.GIF if you would PLEASE download it and destroy the
               earlier version.....thanks...
    VTA3.GIF - no real error on this one, just a lack of precise 
               prescription.
               We know that a bifilar winding will cancel the magnetic
               flux, so what is output from a virtually expanded field
               that is impressed across a BIFILAR COIL is the POTENTIAL
               or voltage that Bearden talks about in his FREENRG3 paper
               bearing the title (The Final Secret for Free Energy).
               So, with no magnetic field present, we have the Hooper or
               "motional" or "pure electric" field that seems to have 
               spin direction which yields cold current or negative
               electricity.
.
So, if you want the corrected versions, they are both only about 10K 
each and you might want to destroy the originals and download the 
corrected or expanded version....
Still not flaming and I am quite surprised that no one has SAID 
anything about the 1000KW error....well glad it was caught, 
unfortunately, there were probably about 20+ downloads of these files 
since being placed online this week....
Thanks for your patience...>>>  Jerry
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Message 165                                    DATE/TIME: 05/02/93 06:35
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: Power Fail?
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!  Don't know if you might have tried calling Sunday morning, 
but when I got up around 6 AM, I noticed KeelyNet had a single flashing 
cursor.....since there was a storm last night, I assume the power 
fluctuated or something happened that crashed the system...
Anyway, rebooted and it came up with no problems.....>>>  Jerry
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Message 166                                    DATE/TIME: 05/02/93 09:12
From   : MARK MANSFIELD                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: VTA stuff
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Jerry,  I noticed the errors in the .GIF's but thought I would
give some others a chance to catch them.  If I knew no one else was
going to I would have said something.  Oh well, that's infamy for you.
I haven't had a chance to work with the magnets yet but plan on it
today!  I'll drop you a note of the results.  I'm going to try it
without the "conditioning" first.  If that proves nill, I'll give them
a little heat and AC field. Later.....Mark......
s
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Message 167                                    DATE/TIME: 05/02/93 09:58
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) VTA stuff
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mark!  Yep, I figured someone had seen the errors, just had not 
gotten back yet....are you still using the disk drive magnets??  
I will probably look around this week for some of those long 
magnets...Edmund Scientific is too damned expensive and I can SURELY 
pick up some locally, Dallas is not a small town after all, will just 
take some hunting....I would like to try not only the bar/cylinders but 
also the disc type to see what happens....one thing that is really 
intriguing is the output of what Bearden calls Potential as a direct 
result of the cancellation of the magnetic field through use of a 
bifilar winding in the output coils...quite intriguing...anyway, will 
report back when I get some decent experiment.......later...>>>  Jerry
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Message 168                                    DATE/TIME: 05/02/93 11:21
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: Relaxation Times
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!  Got a call from a fellow I met at the ISNE conference.  He 
asked a professor at a local university where to look for info on 
RELAXATION TIMES as regards Beardens concept of DSC (degenerate 
semiconductors).  This is specified in Beardens' last paper called The 
Final Secret to Free Energy (listed on KeelyNet as FREENRG3.ZIP).
Bearden says that electrons flow from the inside of a conductor through 
the conductor until they reach the outside surface.  When the surface 
is reached, they do a right angle turn and move with a velocity that we 
measure as CURRENT.  
According to the concept, different elements and or combinations have 
different "relaxation times" and by choosing the correct element or 
combination, you can make a "collector" which will build up a rather 
high potential that can be switched into a load BEFORE the electrons 
reach the surface and translate into current.
Two of our users have been working on this, one with a hi-freq scope, 
to determine some of the relaxation times of various elements.  To 
date, he recently said he had found a substance that had a relaxation 
time of 1 second, but has not yet shared that info.
As to published charts of various relaxation times, we have not heard 
of any source...so that is why this fellow asked the professor.
He suggested a book called THEORETICAL SOLID STATE PHYSICS, VOLUME 2, 
CHAPTER 10, by WILLIAM JONES & NORMAN MARSH.  This chapter 10 
specifically mentions relaxation times, but our friend has not had a 
chance to look up the reference.
If you get a chance to visit a local tech/science library, we would 
appreciate it if you could share whatever you find regarding this 
particular book or subject.
One other mention from our phone friend, he says he was told that BELL 
LABS of NJ had done extensive work on relaxation times but was not 
aware of any publications relating to it.  Makes sense because of phone 
switching and communication problems that might arise from too slow 
response time....remember Bearden said that most of the older F/E 
devices used "corroded wire" which is another way of saying doped to 
alter their relaxation times.....
I have experienced this corrosion effect for years working with PC 
boards...I always called it "cathodic dirt" because it results from 
ionized particles being attracted to lower or ground potentials.  This 
happens mostly with DC circuits, but I have seen it with AC also.
Anyway, another small lead, it all helps in one way or another...>>>  
Jerry
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Message 169                                    DATE/TIME: 05/02/93 14:28
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: VTA4.GIF
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!  Got a phone call today from a fellow who says he has been 
talking extensively with Walter Rosenthal.  He says as he understands 
it, the Sweet VTA magnets do not face end to end but rather lie parallel 
to each other with Bloch Walls next to each other (well, spaced by the 
3 inches necessary for the output coils).  The magnets are still in the 
attractive configuration, that is N/S on one side, N/S on the other 
side (as diagrammed in the file VTA4.GIF).
He also says that the output coils can be single wire (not bifilar) 
which consequently outputs CURRENT as opposed to the POTENTIAL when 
using a bifilar winding.  Also spoke with a fellow who says he tried 
using two large magnets that were not "conditioned" and got nothing as 
an output.....he did however, use STRANDED 24 gauge speaker wire...and 
if what Bearden says is correct, then the wire should PREFERABLY BE 
SOLID CORE, such as the magnet wire specified in the Sweet description.
Remember, the electrons "ooze" from the center of the conductive 
material to the surface, so the greater that distance, the greater 
would be the potential accumulation (also depends on the properties of 
that particular conductor)....well, enough of that..
Suggest you download VTA4.GIF for a different perspective, only about 
9KB....good luck...>>>  Jerry
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Message 173                                    DATE/TIME: 05/03/93 08:39
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : DON KIRCHER
Subject: (R) Where DID that masked man go?
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Don!  As Bryant mentioned, I too thought you dropped off the face of 
the Earth...as you can see, we have been working on the technical side 
as a working model that ends up with plans distributed throughout the 
nets will end up doing more to effect change in our society than 
anything....imagine when EVERYONE has the plans to build a simple 
version of a machine that can provide all the power needed for a house 
OR A CAR, or a PLANE, all WITHOUT GASOLINE!....then the next step, when 
the secret of how to produce a loss of weight in ANY MASS is suddenly 
freely distributed and EVERYONE can make their car a flying machine or 
they can build their own......and follow that with the ultimate 
solution to all disease that can also be built and effected by each and 
every person according to a simple plan...won't any single one of these 
things do more to effect major changes in the world's societies than 
anything currently happening in regard to the "freedom" movement?
I understand the importance of "some" of it, but until LARGE MAJORITIES 
of folks come together to effect the necessary political power to 
effect the changes, nothing will happen....I think that any one of 
those technical methods I named, when found to be buildable and 
workable will attract an audience that could easily be encouraged to 
stand up for real changes that would lead to less government and a back 
to the constitution movement....and get rid of all the current "blame 
everyone but who the person responsible" movement...i.e...bars and 
bartendners now can be sued if someone drinks to much, leaves and gets 
hurt or has a wreck on the way home....BS!  Well, glad you are OK just 
the same...>>>  Jerry
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Message 175                                    DATE/TIME: 05/03/93 13:06
From   : KEN BOZEMAN
To     : ALL
Subject: 3D pictures
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

To all...
I did not get to go to the IANS conference in Denver, but was told that
there was an individual there selling the new 3D pictures.
I am very interested in getting some of these pictures, or getting the
software to create them.
If anyone has a phone number or information on the person that was
there selling the pics, please send me mail about it.
Thanks...
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Message 178                                    DATE/TIME: 05/03/93 19:45
From   : MARK MANSFIELD                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : ROD FREDLUND
Subject: Notes
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Rod!  O.K. I'll give you a call in the future.  As for the
laminations, I am using the stator from a DC "universal" motor
which is 6" OD with 4" ID.  The rotor is constructed from laminations
I scrounged from a large power transformer.  I carefully removed the
laminations from the transformer one at a time (pain in the ass), then
cut the center part out of the "E" shape of the laminations then
stacked all the laminations together and put them in a large bench
vice and drilled a pilot hole in each end and put a bolt through them
to hold them all together.  Then I drilled a hole through the center
of the laminations and put a arbor through to allow them to be put in
a metal lathe.  I carefully measured the inside diameter of the stator
and turned the laminations, that I bolted together, down to about
.002" smaller than the stator ID.  Removed the arbor and inserted a
shaft through the laminations.  It looks just like the drawings on the
papers you have.   BTW, Bob Paddock sent me about 200 pages on the
Ecklin generator.  I'll copy them off and send them to you if you
want them.  I didn't see anything more than you have there though.
Mostly older stuff.  It wound up being about half the size that is
described in the patent, but should prove whether it is overunity or
not! I haven't got it all wound and assembled yet though.  I got side-
tracked with the SWEET device and trying to figure it out.
  The SWEET device has intrigued me since I learned about it from the
Bearden papers.  It seems to be the ultimate device I have heard about
so far: (1)Small (2)Light weight (no pun intended) (3)Has very high
output compared to input (4)Should be cheap to build (5)Will run
lights, motors, heating, etc.; and the list probably goes on and on!
  I have a very good idea how he "conditions" his magnets and it
shouldn't be to difficult of a process.  I spoke to Walt Rosenthal
Sunday and he would not tell me the process for conditioning the mag-
nets.  He said he wasn't for sure himself, that Floyd has not told him
the process in it's entirety.  Only thing he would say for sure is
that it is so novel that he doubted if anyone could figure it out.
Well you know me, I told him my theory of how to do it and he would
neither say it was or wasn't the way to condition magnets.  So I'm
still hopeful and about to try it just to see if it will work!  There
may be some strange ways to "condition" magnets that are not known at
this time but given enough time, myself or someone else will figure
this thing out and look out world then!
  I wish I knew someone who was a engineer at a large magnet factory.
I'd like to ask a few questions.  Rod you are not such a person I pre-
sume?  Oh well, I'll go for now.....let me know....Mark.....
 
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Message 179                                    DATE/TIME: 05/03/93 21:23
From   : MARK MANSFIELD                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Davis and Rawls
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Jerry,  Quick question....did I understand you to say you a paper
written by Albert Roy Davis and Walter Rawls or was it a magizane 
article or video tape?  I would like to know more of their work on
the BLOCH wall principle.   Thanks.....Mark.....
 
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Message 180                                    DATE/TIME: 05/03/93 21:29
From   : DON KIRCHER                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Where DID that masked man go?
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

  I fully support all of your goals and your efforts. Too bad that
my talents are such that I cannot really contribute, other than to
beat the drum-- a task I seem to be well suited for. 
 In a round about way I may be contributing after all. This Waco
thing has been a focal point for my personal political awareness
and activism. The new issue, post Waco, would seem to be NAFTA and
involves issues which will directly affect the climate for the reception
of any final product you might come up with--it is difficult to 
successfully do original research if you cannot feed your family and
the best wage you can command is fiftyeight cents an hour...
 Related issues concern government control of such products. The
proposed BTU tax, for example is an attempt to garnish income from
such fringe energy sources as Solar energy and **would** affect a
device such as you envision. This would thwart the intent of your
efforts. Free energy would not be free. Devices would be stickered
as scales and balances are today. Those not stickered would be 
contraband and fair game for the likes of the revenuers/ATF. Food
for thought. Unless you have a product ready for market in the
**near** future, such activism and soapboxing could well mean the
difference between a product available to the common man and one
which enjoys "controlled access" thanks to prior legislation and
agreements such as NAFTA. In that regard Ross Perot is right; Waco
was a distraction taking attention away from that which is really
important...our ability to provide for our families.
Take care
dlk
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   "Democracy means having the courage and persistance to make
the dreams of a free people come true...The people winning these
battles don't sit around complaining about apathy; instead they are
actively 'doing democracy.' That's right--doing democracy. Democracy
is more than a place you live in, more than a belief. Democracy is a
skill, something you learn and do. You don't do it, you don't have it."
                          -- Abbie Hoffman
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Message 182                                    DATE/TIME: 05/04/93 10:31
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) Davis and Rawls
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mark!  There is a series of books written by Davis and Rawls, those 
books used to be available from Edmund Scientific but I don't see them 
listed lately...Albert Davis died a few years ago but Walter Rawls is 
still alive and living out near Jacksonville, Florida...I think his 
address is listed in the CONTACT1 file....you might write or call him, 
he is a really nice guy...he will know where you can buy some books if 
you are really interested in some of the amazing work they did, 
especially Davis...  I still intend to do some papers for the BBS but 
so much other to try to stay on top of...anyway, good luck...if you 
talk or write to him, tell him you know Jerry Decker and he might be a 
bit more open...>>>  Jerry
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Message 183                                    DATE/TIME: 05/04/93 10:34
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : SCOTT KIRK
Subject: (R) Re: Upload of 70L7GT.TXT
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Scott!  Agreed, I think most of the really amazing effects that we 
call free energy or anti-grav, etc....will be brought about by simple 
geometries that redirect or bias ZPE or Aether flows....anyway, thanks 
for the tube data....and I note that our friend linked up 
recently...perhaps he can get the document and get a translation of it 
since I know lots of folks would be interested...>>>  Jerry
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Message 184                                    DATE/TIME: 05/04/93 10:37
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : DWAYNE PHILLIPS
Subject: (R) Files
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Dwayne! You may do as you wish with the files as long as you share 
them in the spirit they are intended...that is, don't charge for the 
info as we believe and practice as open an exchange as possible...the 
intent is to inspire folks to experiment and open their minds to other 
ways of doing things.....good luck...>>>  Jerry
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Message 185                                    DATE/TIME: 05/04/93 15:54
From   : DAVID RAMOS                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : KEN BOZEMAN
Subject: (R) Home Power article
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Ken,
I sent this letter out today, sorry about the delay, I didn't get it 
copied until last night.
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Message 186                                    DATE/TIME: 05/04/93 17:07
From   : MARK MANSFIELD                     -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: Notes
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Jerry,  In reference to message 197.... you talked with a guy that
has been in extensive contact with Mr. Rosenthal.  You mention that
if you use only a single layer of wire, you get current instead of
potential.  Correct?  Just wanted a clear understanding of that.
  I have some new ideas on the "conditioning" process.  I'm not
sure if the curie temp. has anything to do with it or not.  I got out
the books and started reading.... it seems that sometimes there is
something called sinusoidally modulated magnetic ordering in ferro-
magnetic materials that have hexagonal lattice structures.  I called
a magnetic materials specialist, but he had left for the day.  I'll
call back tomorrow!  From what I've read, the sine wave ordering in
magnets might be more what were are looking for?  One thing is for
certain, if someone can figure this stuff out without a laboratory in
their backyard, we too can do the same.  It must be a process that is
fairly easy to do with not very elaborate equipment.  Mr. Sweet did
not even own a O'scope or signal generator until recently (per Mr.
Rosenthal).  Most everything he had was built/loaned by others.
  To make a statement like "The conditioning technique is so novel, it
is doubtful anyone would ever guess how it is done." does not lend
much credit to the rest of the human race!  It is becoming a passion
to "crack" it now! Did I say HELL-BENT?  Oh well....later....Mark....
 
P.S. I might call later to discuss the above, but probably not tonight.
You were warned!
 
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Message 188                                    DATE/TIME: 05/05/93 11:02
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : MARK MANSFIELD
Subject: (R) Notes
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Mark!  As to the current and potential (difference between), a 
single coil of wire NOT wound in bifilar MUST project a magnetic field, 
while in a bifilar geometry, the current cancels, leaving ONLY an 
electric/Hooper/potential/motional field.
And I agree absolutely with what you said about Sweet not having lots 
of high tech equipment to work with...Keely also made a statement which 
I think was incredibly stupid or presumptious, that is that it would 
take "an infinite mind" to comprehend even the lower orderings of how 
frequencies could produce modes of force or action...I think this was a 
bit out of touch with reality...anyway, who are either of us or anyone 
else to say such since WE have not built a working model...guess the 
qualification is NOT in the education, equipment, etc...but in the 
simple fact DO YOU HAVE A WORKING MODEL??   In my case, I am sad to say 
NOT YET...but NEVER SAY DIE!!!....>>>  Jerry
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Message 190                                    DATE/TIME: 05/05/93 21:10
From   : BOB ALDRICH                        -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Subject: (R) Bearden's Latest
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Jerry,
     Yes, let us know what you hear from Bearden, as my source seems to 
have disappeared from the face of the Earth! But he does that 
periodically.. not to worry.
     Bob
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Message 192                                    DATE/TIME: 05/06/93 13:27
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : BOB ALDRICH
Subject: (R) Bearden's Latest
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Bob!  Ok, as always, I will post whatever he has to say that might 
be of use....I talked with JOE NEWMAN out in Mississippi and he says 
the public demonstration they did on March 28th in Washington was 
videotaped and he sells it for $20.....the address is in the CONTACT1 
file...if you want a copy...his book is being republished with about 
300 more pages and will also soon be available for $59.95...>>>  Jerry
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Message 193                                    DATE/TIME: 05/06/93 13:28
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : LARRY BLUE
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Blue!  Ok, will send you a "flyer" on the meeting and place you on 
future mailing lists...good to hear you ain't dead or otherwise taken 
prisoner....talked to Ron and he says let's plan a lunch date...you 
name the time and place (11:00 AM where and when???)....>>>  Jerry
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Message 196                                    DATE/TIME: 05/07/93 09:35
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : ROBERT BONNER
Subject: (R) Einstin's Unified Field Theory
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Robert!  Yes, I read the book and the man claims he has some type of 
technology that creates an anti-grav effect, but he gives little in the 
book that would lead one to be able to build a working device....if I 
recall correctly, he also claims he can reconfigure to create an F/E 
device....you know he wrote a book in the 50's and this one is simply 
an update, some wild claims in it.....see ya...>>>  Jerry
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Message 197                                    DATE/TIME: 05/07/93 09:36
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)               -- RECEIVED -- 
To     : JERRY BAYSDORFER
Subject: (R) Comment
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Jerry!  Yes, several people are interested in the Bearden paper but 
I think the hot thing right now is the ADAMS machine from New 
Zealand/Australia....I have some papers on it which I will do my 
damndest to get online with diagrams...and of course, Sweet seems to 
have eclipsed everyones interest also...some are working on that too 
including myself...anyway, everyone does what they can and many are 
sharing their findings....you might leave a note to ROD FREDLUND and 
MARK MANSFIELD...they will clue you into their ideas on the 
subject...>>>  Jerry
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Message 198                                    DATE/TIME: 05/07/93 10:51
From   : FRIEDRICH BADER
To     : ALL
Subject: Construction of a Mercury-laser
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hello poeples out there in the USA,
I'm calling from Germany, apparently the less well informed country in 
the world concerning scientific stuff.
I got involved in the development of a low-cost high-power laser
for the production of fulerenes (C60) in amounts of 100 - 200 grs. per 
day.
Does anybody know some literature about Hg-steam lasers?
For any substantial help on developing the laser I'd offer first a trip 
to Germany to meet and 
ifyou're 
to germany for this summer and if 
your mind is able to catalize the termination of the development to 
fall this year a partizipation on this project and others (not less 
interresting)!) !!!!!
If you've gotsome message for me just leave it in this box or call me 
at the number 37 75 86 in Karlsruhe 
germany
area code for Karlsruhe is 721
Hope to get a bunch of messages!
Friedrich
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Message 199                                    DATE/TIME: 05/07/93 17:06
From   : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
To     : ALL
Subject: PostScript view/print program
Folder : A, "Public Mail"

Hi Folks!  Don't really know who to address this to but I need a VERY 
TINY FAVOR!  
KeelyNet was sent what appears to be a most excellent file with 4 
pictures, all supposedly written by Sweet himself!
However, they are in the Postscript format (ext is .PS) and I have 
nothing that will read or print those files...
So please scrounge around your computer and see if you have a PD 
version or SOMETHING that will write to a laser or 24 pin dot matrix or 
translate to a WORD PERFECT type format...from there I can use the 
laser at work (Panasonic KXP4450) to print it up...
The files really need to be online as from what I can read they look 
quite good....
If no one has anything, I guess I can run the boards this weekend in 
search of such a program..
Really, if it would just translate to Word Perfect, I could print it 
out and or redo the picture files...whatever will allow it to come 
online here in a more "populist" format....
Thanks for your assistance...>>>  Jerry
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